It sounds like another way to control people, and of course get money.
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JW. Org logon to email them
by sherrie11 init doesn't allow anyone to register.
are they to scared of the feedback from those who know ' the truth about the truth'.
it seems to me they should not even have a contact us function (especially if your main form of contact is email, which is the norm for 2013) who designed this thing................. are the elders and the privileged jw's sent their logon details... i would love to know the secret squirrel shite.
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Please allow me to apologise.
by quellycatface ini have been posting on here for a few weeks now and i know i have been quite colourful in my language.. i hope i have'nt offended anyone, if so, i am sorry.. i'm just so damn angry about everything.
i feel like an idiot.
i'd been falling for the bs for so many years.. will these feelings ever fade?.
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Doesn't it feel great, to finally be aware of your own mind, and be free to speak it? :)
jgnat: in the words of our bible study conductor, "How does it feel to realize you've been lied to your whole life?"
No wonder there are so many angry JW's out there... it is wonderful to find a place where self-expression is encouraged!
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The packages will arrive today... What do you think will happen?
by Faithful Witness ini have decided that ignoring my niece and nephew during the holidays, is the most unloving thing i could possibly do.
they stopped celebrating christmas and birthdays, after my sister began studying with jw's about 6-7 years ago.
we did not celebrate either, until 3 years ago, when my son was 2 and my daughter was 4, and we'd figured out that the jw's are wrong about this decision.
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blondie: that is a question I have been asking them for many months. What is my status? I was never a JW, but a bible student for a long time. We seriously considered and examined it carefully. When asked directly, they tell me there is no problem with me. Their behavior is the exact opposite, treating me as if I do not exist, unless they can see me seeing them seeing me.
I do not do well at mind games. I do not know what is expected or acceptable.
I will say this: A year ago, my dad sent out an email to all his adult children. (5 out of 6 are not JW's,never have been). In this message, he stated that his main focus in life now is to be a "good Jehovah's Witness." I found this statement alarming. It was followed with, "I hope you have noticed some improvements." I did reply to him privately, and challenged him to ask himself whether he was serving jehovah, or serving an organization.
I have not seen any improvements in my father, unless numbness and lack of passion for life would be considered an improvement. He has grown in thoughtlessness, and has bled this bizarre behavior all over my mother, who used to be my best friend. They have become rude, arrogant and robotic.
He had asked me not to share his messages with anyone else, to avoid hurt feelings. (In it, he told me how he would always be closer to my JW sister, even if I did become a JW.) I told him that I would do that, but that I hoped he would share mine. "I wouldn't be surprised if they discourage you from communicating with me anymore, after 42 years of a fine family relationship." I have not heard from him since. He will speak to me, if we happen to be t the same place at the same time.
It is only my sister, who has come right out and told me that she won't bring her kids into my house. She has to protect them from idolatry.
Ok, moving on to my own life, and my own family, that actually cares if I exist. I hope the kids enjoy their gifts, and that maybe one of those cookies in that gift box, will crunch in a way that wakes up a brain cell in my sister's skull. Probably not.
Confusion makes sense to JW's.
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Instructions To Elders Re: Pursuing Higher Education
by baldeagle inunderlining is mine.. march 6, 2012 letter.
pursue divine education:some of our brothers are pursuing higher education, feeling that they can acquire a measure of financial security.
as you are aware, the educational system varies from country to country.
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They didn't like the fact that we were unwilling to submit and stop using our brains. My husband's college degree and zeal for asking questions and adding other relevant information to a discussion, got them to stop calling on him during the watchtower lesson. The conductor was an engineer by trade, and clearly financially well-off. He would look right at his hand in the air and call on someone else. My husband actually enjoys studying, and he would add interesting thoughts to the discussions. that was a problem.
Little did he know, that this very behavior was what caused us to start questioning whether they were sincere in thier beliefs. The subsequent threats from our teacher solidified the idea that these people were not genuine.
They not only want to protect the sheep from the evil education system, but protect the flock from educated people. Keeping out those who have degrees and good jobs, is just making them more desperate to feed off the weak and feeble.
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JW. Org logon to email them
by sherrie11 init doesn't allow anyone to register.
are they to scared of the feedback from those who know ' the truth about the truth'.
it seems to me they should not even have a contact us function (especially if your main form of contact is email, which is the norm for 2013) who designed this thing................. are the elders and the privileged jw's sent their logon details... i would love to know the secret squirrel shite.
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Splash: Access to what extras?
Kate: that is sickening.
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JW. Org logon to email them
by sherrie11 init doesn't allow anyone to register.
are they to scared of the feedback from those who know ' the truth about the truth'.
it seems to me they should not even have a contact us function (especially if your main form of contact is email, which is the norm for 2013) who designed this thing................. are the elders and the privileged jw's sent their logon details... i would love to know the secret squirrel shite.
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Information comes DOWN from the Tower. Listen to the slave.
If they truly wanted to spread the good news, they would be using mass media.
Their appearance on the Internet is a feeble attempt to look like they are mainstream.
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The packages will arrive today... What do you think will happen?
by Faithful Witness ini have decided that ignoring my niece and nephew during the holidays, is the most unloving thing i could possibly do.
they stopped celebrating christmas and birthdays, after my sister began studying with jw's about 6-7 years ago.
we did not celebrate either, until 3 years ago, when my son was 2 and my daughter was 4, and we'd figured out that the jw's are wrong about this decision.
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And yes, I love to cook. Stirring the pot is important!
This will give them something to think about.
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The packages will arrive today... What do you think will happen?
by Faithful Witness ini have decided that ignoring my niece and nephew during the holidays, is the most unloving thing i could possibly do.
they stopped celebrating christmas and birthdays, after my sister began studying with jw's about 6-7 years ago.
we did not celebrate either, until 3 years ago, when my son was 2 and my daughter was 4, and we'd figured out that the jw's are wrong about this decision.
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I'm relieved and surprised there are not more scoldings coming at me right now. Before the JW's, my sister was the biggest gift giver in our family. I don't know if anyone else here is a convert who once had a big family Christmas tradition, but the giving is the fun part. She used to show up with piles of gifts, even though it was clear her husband resented it. He made grumbly comments about Christmas and excess, but she was very generous, and we all made homemade gifts and treats for each other. It wasn't about the presents, but we sure had fun finding and giving and laughing and eating together.
I am not trying to amass evidence against her. I have forgiven them for the way they treat me. But it is not the kids' fault. They are old enough to remember the parties, and they know they are being excluded. We had a modified version of a gift-giving holiday, that we called the "homemade trade." That went on for a few years, until "I turned my back on Jehovah," and my sister started shunning me. My house is centrally located between family that lives hours apart, so now there is no party, after they refused to come and my dad tried to change the location to his house and exclude 1/4 of the family. That story is contained in one of my earliest posts here. Our family just got indelibly ripped in half last year. The rawness of it has subsided enough for me to finally have compassion for the real victims here... The children (And my brother in law).
I was thinking that maybe since I didn't actually TOUCH the food or the gifts, they will probably accept it in secret. I didn't find the "one-click curse from satan" button on amazon. I think that Costs extra. My sister might someday have a lightbulb moment, and remember the fun we used to have. I will sit here and wonder about it, but they've broken my heart enough times now. I get the hint.
I am not the one that is confusing them.
Thank you all for your mixed JW perspectives. Explaining Christmas to JW's is like explaining JW's to the world. Haha ;-)
I would LOVE to give the gifts in person,or even have the chance to talk to my JW niece. I would take them to an amusement park or anywhere they wanted to go. Unfortunately, that can't happen. I am already being shunned and slandered, so I'm not sure I could make it worse by sending a small gift.
Perhaps they will have enough awareness or a flicker of a reality check when they see the kids are happy to get some attention. It's a calendar and a set of blocks. I'm out $100 on the whole deal, with parents and sister. A small price to make them think about how assanine they are being.
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The packages will arrive today... What do you think will happen?
by Faithful Witness ini have decided that ignoring my niece and nephew during the holidays, is the most unloving thing i could possibly do.
they stopped celebrating christmas and birthdays, after my sister began studying with jw's about 6-7 years ago.
we did not celebrate either, until 3 years ago, when my son was 2 and my daughter was 4, and we'd figured out that the jw's are wrong about this decision.
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I have decided that ignoring my niece and nephew during the holidays, is the most unloving thing I could possibly do. They stopped celebrating Christmas and birthdays, after my sister began studying with JW's about 6-7 years ago. We did nOT celebrate either, until 3 years ago, when my son was 2 and my daughter was 4, and we'd figured out that the JW's are wrong about this decision.
I have sent a few letters and cards to my sister this year, in an attempt to reach out To her. I had no reply, but she did acknowledge receiving them, when I asked her. I asked if she opened them and read them, and she said yes. About a month ago, I cashed in some gas station reward points for a restaurant gift card and sent it to her, inside a funny card about a priest getting pulled over. (Joke included at bottom of this message). Inside the card, I wrote a note about taking them out for dinner, and that someday maybe we can do it in person.
I am assuming she got the card. My kids sent a small puzzle book and handwritten notes to my mother around the same time. We heard no reply from that mailing either. I thought it odd and rude, but am just hoping they did get them. I wasn't trying to get a thank you or recognition, but I have come to realize that my family no longer believes in common courtesy. I never learn... so I am repeating myself This week.
Scheduled to arrive tomorrow, I have sent two small gifts from amazon to my niece and nephew. I emailed my sister and told her they were coming, and that the one for my nephew did not offer gift wrap. For my 12 year old niece, I sent a wall calendar: "What cats teach us." It includes cute kitten photos, along with "inspirational" messages that I could not preview. I assume it will be along the lines of, "take lots of naps" or something like that. Maybe one of the phrases will inspire an independent thought one day. For my 10'year old nephew, I sent a little building set with pulleys and levers. I heard he was learning some engineering stuff, so it looked just right for him.
I also sent a treat package in non-holiday colored packaging. One to my sisters house, and one to my folks. Too generous, i know.
Any guesses what they will do? Will they just take and eat, say nothing about it? Throw it in the garbage? Will they give the gifts to the kids? Lie to them or hide them or throw them away? I may never know. Just wondering what you all think...
I am fed up with the way they treat these kids. I seriously wish I could help them. Will this act of kindness make me even worse in their eyes? I'm not trying to buy them, but dont know how else to show them we do care about you, innocent children who did not choose to be forced into the JW trap!
Joke on card I sent:
A police officer is standing next to a car, being driven by a priest. "Father, have you been drinking?"
Priest: "Just water, officer."
Officer: "Why do I smell wine?"
Priest: "Good Lord! He's done it again! It's a miracle!"
(I crossed out the happy birthday) My sister and brother in law used to party sometimes. Alcohol and marijuana, until they were counseled to quit the pot, before they would be allowed to go in field service.
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Revelation, It's Grand Climax at Hand
by Cold Steel init's a rather large red book.. if i wanted to purchase one from a pioneer, how much would it cost?.
i'm reading a borrowed copy now.. thanks!.
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